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		<title>Comment on City of Sanctuary by Clive K. Lavery</title>
		<link>http://valuesandframes.org/casestudy/city-of-sanctuary/#comment-1060</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive K. Lavery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a wonderful project, I feel truly inspired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a wonderful project, I feel truly inspired.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Campaigning With Common Cause &#8211; What Did We Learn? by Campaigners &#8211; Join The Common Cause Action Learning Porcess &#171; Casper ter Kuile</title>
		<link>http://valuesandframes.org/campaigning-with-common-cause-what-did-we-learn-2/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>Campaigners &#8211; Join The Common Cause Action Learning Porcess &#171; Casper ter Kuile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] case studies and coming together in community, a growing number of campaigners are exploring how to use a values approach in their [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Campaigning With Common Cause &#8211; What Did We Learn? by Morgan Hope Phillips</title>
		<link>http://valuesandframes.org/campaigning-with-common-cause-what-did-we-learn-2/#comment-1058</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Hope Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regard to Systems Thinking and how it applies to sustainability and values, I&#039;d highly recommend reading Stephen Sterling&#039;s chapter on Ecological Intelligence in the Handbook of Sustainability Literacy: 
http://arts.brighton.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/5922/Ecological-Intelligence2.pdf </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regard to Systems Thinking and how it applies to sustainability and values, I&#8217;d highly recommend reading Stephen Sterling&#8217;s chapter on Ecological Intelligence in the Handbook of Sustainability Literacy: <br />
<a href="http://arts.brighton.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/5922/Ecological-Intelligence2.pdf " rel="nofollow">http://arts.brighton.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/5922/Ecological-Intelligence2.pdf </a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Opening the ethical debates in advertising by Campaigning With Common Cause &#8211; What Did We Learn? &#124; Common Cause</title>
		<link>http://valuesandframes.org/opening-the-ethical-debates-in-advertising/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>Campaigning With Common Cause &#8211; What Did We Learn? &#124; Common Cause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] heard from Morgan and his work with Waste Watch and from Guy and his work on advertising, then broke into smaller groups to dive [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on What about people for whom extrinsic values are particularly important? by Adam Lofting</title>
		<link>http://valuesandframes.org/what-about-people-for-whom-extrinsic-values-are-particularly-important/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Lofting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom,

This sounds like essentially good news about the intrinsic capacity of the human race. But, here&#039;s a half thought/question from me to follow up... 

If everyone can be moved towards either intrinsic or extrinsic values via exposure to either intrinsic or extrinsic messages and ideas (in their myriad of forms), the resulting balance of intrinsic to extrinsic values at a societal level will always boil down to the overall balance of intrinsic or extrinsic values in the messages that surround us. This is where I become less optimistic - as the most pervasive, consistent and optimised messages surrounding us today are from advertising; an ecosystem which perpetually surfaces the most profitable messages to the fore, and the most profitable messages, I believe, will favour extrinsic values, which in turn may cause the kind a feedback loop that changes a society.

So I guess my question is, does the intrinsic/extrinsic bias and scale of advertising overpower any tweaking of messaging that can be done at a grassroots level? And if so, what does that mean for the people who want to make things better?

I&#039;ll leave it on that note, as you may have addressed this in &#039;Think Of Me As Evil&#039;, which I&#039;ll have a look at this evening.

Thanks,
Adam
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>This sounds like essentially good news about the intrinsic capacity of the human race. But, here&#8217;s a half thought/question from me to follow up&#8230; </p>
<p>If everyone can be moved towards either intrinsic or extrinsic values via exposure to either intrinsic or extrinsic messages and ideas (in their myriad of forms), the resulting balance of intrinsic to extrinsic values at a societal level will always boil down to the overall balance of intrinsic or extrinsic values in the messages that surround us. This is where I become less optimistic &#8211; as the most pervasive, consistent and optimised messages surrounding us today are from advertising; an ecosystem which perpetually surfaces the most profitable messages to the fore, and the most profitable messages, I believe, will favour extrinsic values, which in turn may cause the kind a feedback loop that changes a society.</p>
<p>So I guess my question is, does the intrinsic/extrinsic bias and scale of advertising overpower any tweaking of messaging that can be done at a grassroots level? And if so, what does that mean for the people who want to make things better?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave it on that note, as you may have addressed this in &#8216;Think Of Me As Evil&#8217;, which I&#8217;ll have a look at this evening.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Adam</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do we have the time to shift values? by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://valuesandframes.org/faq/do-we-have-the-time-to-shift-values/#comment-1055</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone asking this question believes that it&#039;s a binary choice between &#039;desperate short-termist campaigning&#039; and value shifting. Please try to give a serious answer to a serious concern among environmental campaigners.

Does Common Cause have a timeline? Is the ambition to shift values before or after the opportunity to avoid tipping points in biodiversity and climate systems? I think many people are rightly skeptical of whether we can win a culture war within the next decade. If the ambition is to shift values so that our societies are in better shape to cope with catastrophic deleveraging, perhaps you should state that from the off...? And perhaps, also, you should avoid slamming campaigns aimed at provoking meaningful action now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone asking this question believes that it&#8217;s a binary choice between &#8216;desperate short-termist campaigning&#8217; and value shifting. Please try to give a serious answer to a serious concern among environmental campaigners.</p>
<p>Does Common Cause have a timeline? Is the ambition to shift values before or after the opportunity to avoid tipping points in biodiversity and climate systems? I think many people are rightly skeptical of whether we can win a culture war within the next decade. If the ambition is to shift values so that our societies are in better shape to cope with catastrophic deleveraging, perhaps you should state that from the off&#8230;? And perhaps, also, you should avoid slamming campaigns aimed at provoking meaningful action now?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Campaign Case Study: The Otesha Project by Campaign Case Study &#8211; Waste Watch &#171; Casper ter Kuile</title>
		<link>http://valuesandframes.org/campaign-case-study-the-otesha-project/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>Campaign Case Study &#8211; Waste Watch &#171; Casper ter Kuile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post is cross-posted from the Values and Frames website, where this was initially published. Thanks to Tim and Morgan for making it [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Opening the ethical debates in advertising by Sustainable development in 2012: Learning the lessons of 1987 &#124; Left Foot Forward</title>
		<link>http://valuesandframes.org/opening-the-ethical-debates-in-advertising/#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>Sustainable development in 2012: Learning the lessons of 1987 &#124; Left Foot Forward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] properly understand these real needs (as opposed to advertising created wants) we must examine the evidence from positive psychology, welfare economics and wellbeing. There is [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Opening the ethical debates in advertising by Revisiting Brundtland &#171; FlourishingEnterprise</title>
		<link>http://valuesandframes.org/opening-the-ethical-debates-in-advertising/#comment-1052</link>
		<dc:creator>Revisiting Brundtland &#171; FlourishingEnterprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as a new strategic lens To properly understand these real needs (as opposed to advertising created wants) we must examine the evidence from positive psychology, welfare economics and wellbeing. There is [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Talks on carbon emissions not enough: governments must lead a shift in values, says new report by Towards a shift in values &#124; Low Carbon Communities</title>
		<link>http://valuesandframes.org/talks-on-carbon-emissions-not-enough-governments-must-lead-a-shift-in-values-says-new-report/#comment-1051</link>
		<dc:creator>Towards a shift in values &#124; Low Carbon Communities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The report, Different Politics, Same Planet: Values for sustainable development beyond left and right, calls for a radically different approach to policy making in the future, one that taps into the cultural values of people and their communities in determining responses to today&#8217;s profound social, humanitarian and environmental challenges. It&#8217;s available here: Talks on carbon emissions not enough: governments must lead a shift in values, says new report [...]</description>
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